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            | Date:
            Sun, 26 May 1996 From:
            "James D. Houck"
 Subject:
 The
            Run of Pheidippides
 
 Can
            anyone help me locate the source for Pheidippides' (or Philippides')
            alleged run from Marathon to Athens in 490BC? I am especially
            interested in the account that he informed his fellow Athenians of
            their victory (nike! nike! or nikomen! nikomen!) and then he fell
            over dead. thanks for your help.
 
 Date:
            Mon, 27 May 1996
 From:
            Loizos Demetris
 Subject: Re: The Run of Pheidippides
 
 This
            is just an Athenian myth. There is no ancient source that refers to
            the incident, that is Pheidippides ran to Athens after the battle of
            Marathon etc.
 
 Date:
            Mon, 27 May 1996
 From:
            Nigel Kennell
 Subject:
            Re: The Run of Pheidippides
 
 The
            story of a victory run from Marathon to Athens first appears in
            Plutarch's Moralia (347C) over half a millenium later than the
            Persian Wars; he gives credit to either Thersippus or Eukles.
            Lucian, in the second century AD, says that a PhiLippides ran from
            Marathon. The story is probably a confused version of the even more
            astounding run that Herodotus tells us Phidippides completed from
            Athens to Sparta just before the battle. He went to seek Spartan aid
            and took 2 days to run the 145 miles between the two cities -- an
            impressive, but not unbelievable feat (Hdt. 6.105-6)
 
 Date:
            Mon, 27 May 1996
 From:
            CARLOS ALONSO
 Subject:
            Re: The Run of Pheidippides
 
 Lucian _A Slip of the Tongue in Salutation_ (Greek Title _Huper tou
            en tei Prosagoregsei Ptaismatos_) Chapter 3, tells the story of
            Philippides' run from Marathon.
 
 Date:
            Tue, 28 May 1996
 From:
            Bill Thayer
 Subject:
            Re: The Run of Pheidippides
 
 an
            impressive, but not unbelievable feat Hope not; I've walked 103
            in that (57+46) with a very bad night's sleep in the intervening
            night; was in agony BTW, leg cramps mostly, for about 3 days after,
            having done it "cold", no hiking in the several years
            before. That suggests to me that Phei_ippides might have been better
            off walking rather than running; my limiting factor was *time*. Had
            I not attempted to sleep, and thus wasted 8 hours or so, I could
            have covered 145 miles in 2 days (I got to my destination at about 5
            pm, my estimate is I would have got there around 8), and I don't
            think I would have died of it, although I wasn't in particularly 
            good shape at the time. Plausibility is further undermined, surely
            he could have borrowed a horse: if not at the beginning of the
            route, along the way?
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